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READER COMMENTS ON”KY Acclamation Admiral Arrested, Charged With ‘Changing Votes at E-Voting Machines'”(61 Responses so far…)

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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]… Bev Harris said on 3/19/2009 @ 5:58 pm PT…

Great article, Brad. Clay Canton is alike added belled than Bullitt County. It’s aloft acclamation official is in bastille for arson and election-rigging, as are several of its arch citizens.

You can acquisition added about Clay Canton in my appropriate address “Moonshine Elections 3” –

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/moonshine3.pdf

Excerpts on Clay Canton KY:

In August, 2007, Jennings B. White, the arch elections official in Clay Canton Kentucky pleaded accusable to captivation in a aloft biologic ring. He had been bankrupt for biologic running, extortion, arson and bribery and was bedevilled to seven years in prison.

White had served two agreement as canton clerk. He was arrested in 2006 in amalgamation with a biologic amphitheatre headed by Kenneth Day, a aloft Clay canton acclamation abettor and bounded businessman. Day accepted that he had bought votes at times.

Elections arch White pleaded accusable to a cardinal of charges, including money bed-making for Day and demography biologic cash. Added accuse adjoin White included conspiring to administer drugs and conspiring to action a bribe. White additionally accustomed that amid May 2004 and October 2006, he took allotment in acquisitive kickbacks.

And in my “Moonshine Elections 2” report:http://blackboxvoting.org/moonshine2.pdf

Excerpt, mostly from Wall Street Journal article:

NEPOTISM GONE WILD

And afresh there’s Clay County, Kentucky. You won’t get far researching Clay Canton afore you blast into a half-dozen Sizemores, who abide in affluence on both abandon of the law. I aloof can’t top this article, accounting by Bryan Burrough. It illustrates the pitfalls of family-run government so eloquently you artlessly charge apprehend these excerpts — and blade in apperception that ol’ Crawdad Sizemore won his latest acclamation in May this year:

In Clay County, Ky., It Takes Some Accomplishing To Avoid a SizemoreThe Wall Street Journal

. . . Meet the able Sizemore clan, whose anchor on this abandoned abundance canton is surpassed alone by the abandon that clings to its name. Bombings, murders, declared lath tampering, bootlegging — the adventure of the Sizemores weaves calm all the aberrant and alarming capacity of backroom in Appalachia’s hamlets.

There is Sheriff Harold Sizemore, whose ancestor and antecedent as sheriff was asleep in a backcountry alveolate by a sniper’s bullets in 1969. There is Canton Adjudicator Carl “Crawdad” Sizemore. There is Constable “Black Jack” Sizemore, whose ancestor was attack in the aback by a canton sheriff in 1922. And the tax adjudicator is James Sizemore, declared a “double Sizemore” because his parents were both Sizemores.

. . . Indeed, with ascendancy over the two better sources of jobs — the schools and the canton amount — the Sizemores authority amplitude over abundant of Clay County’s populace. Few association hereabouts, including the Sizemores’ political opponents, will criticize them

. . . To accept Clay County’s contradictions, one charge aboriginal accept the Sizemores — which isn’t accessible aback abounding Sizemores can’t untangle their own ancestors tree.

“There are about four or bristles sets of us, but as continued as you’re a Sizemore, you’re a Sizemore, no amount what,” says Black Jack Sizemore, the constable. “Above all, we stick together.”

. . . They aboriginal came into bulge hereabouts because of what is now accepted as the abundant Sizemore altercation of 1931. . . And afore the killing stopped, ancestors associates recall, nine Sizemores were dead, including a agent sheriff ambushed by his two aboriginal cousins in an altercation over acclamation results.

Even today, their critics say, the Sizemores bottle their appropriate casting of amends in Clay County. Consider the annihilation balloon of Stevie Sizemore, a affluent atramentous abettor arrested in 1980 for gunning bottomward two abutment organizers on a aback alley afore a army of witnesses.

. . . From the aboriginal batter of the gavel in the awkward abundance courtroom, the Sizemores were as blubbery as the fog actuality on a bounce morning. Escorting the jurors was Sheriff Harold Sizemore. Handling the annal was a canton agent who was affiliated to a Sizemore.

. . . That allegedly wasn’t abundant for some association members. According to lath and affidavits filed with balloon testimony, some ancestors associates waged a advance to admission jurors.

. . . Looking about the courtroom, accompaniment prosecutors knew they were in trouble. So aback the lath apoplectic with alone a distinct accusable vote, admitting four eyewitnesses who articular Mr. Sizemore as the killer, Ms. Goodman, the prosecutor, says she advised the distinct accusable vote a victory

. . . No affiliate of the Sizemore association admits to lath tampering, but one chief ancestors member,Granville Sizemore, acknowledges the convenance isn’t alien in Clay County. “It’s what we bottomward actuality call, ‘knowing the jury,'” he says.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]… Orangutan. said on 3/19/2009 @ 7:05 pm PT…

Spread this everywhere. This is the future. This is the anarchy blazon bits that is bare to be confronted and fixed.

And acknowledgment guys for accomplishing all the assignment on this stuff. It is so appreciated.

COMMENT #3 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 3/19/2009 @ 7:11 pm PT…

Thanks, Bev. Had a activity you’d be the aboriginal one to jump into comments on this one!

BTW, I’ve now adapted the commodity with capacity from the allegation itself, answer how absolutely they pulled off this scheme, application biting voters and the ES&S iVotronic…

COMMENT #4 [Permalink]… Greg D said on 3/19/2009 @ 7:22 pm PT…

Brad – any abstraction how abounding votes were absolutely altered? Did they about-face the acclamation through this scheme?

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]… Lora said on 3/19/2009 @ 7:51 pm PT…

Jeez, the wingnut cabal theorists were….correct!

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]… Savantster said on 3/19/2009 @ 8:07 pm PT…

And still the sheeple will sleep.

I can accord this to a babe I assignment with, and she will still assert that this is an abandoned adventure and no one abroad in the country should alike anticipate about it. She will debris to absorb new facts into the balloon she lives in; I apperceive because I’ve asked her about abounding things afterwards giving her examples, and she keeps active in circles aggravating to get her arch about the complete adverse of what she’s audition to what she has corrective the apple as.

In short, she would abolish this “factual archetype of how ambiguous these machines are” as some affectionate of fiction, alike if she watched these bodies accomplishing it (she would artlessly say “but, this is aloof them bold us.. this can’t absolutely arise on acclamation day”)

Cognitive antagonism is activity to abort (if it’s not already) America.

But abundant column Brad!

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]… John Washburn said on 3/19/2009 @ 8:23 pm PT…

Brad there is added in the indictment.In accession to the abetment alone iVotronics, the defendants additionally actualize artificial letters application the “features” of the UNITY suite. The specific diction from the allegation is:

As allotment of the arrangement to bamboozle the defendants assisted in the alertness of anelection address that falsely arise as authentic counterfeit vote totals in the canton to theKentucky Secretary of Accompaniment and the Kentucky Lath of Elections.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]… John Dowd said on 3/19/2009 @ 9:00 pm PT…

This case sheds new ablaze (FINALLY!) on the exit-poll after-effects from the 2004 Presidential acclamation in Ohio, which Edison-Mitofsky attempted to explain abroad as actuality due to simple, innocent “within-precinct error”, acquired by voters in assertive predominantly Republican counties chief to lie about how they voted to the exit-pollsters.

Note that if Edison-Mitofsky had been accomplishing exit-polls in Clay county, they would accept said this was aloof accession case of “within-precinct error”, annihilation to see here, move along.

Only now we apperceive that it was a cabal of a baby accumulation of bodies on the inside, who had admission to the machines, who skewed the results.

Perhaps now, some advantage can be brought to blade on prosecutors in Ohio, or conceivably the DOJ could now be induced to crave Edison-Mitofsky to about-face over the precinct-level abstracts from 2004 for analysis at the federal level.

Because now we apperceive that acclamation artifice can and does happen. It has happened. So may we amuse now, finally, get some investigations and some justice?

For the adulation of truth,

John Dowd

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]… Bev Harris said on 3/19/2009 @ 9:47 pm PT…

One of the defendants in this case, alleged Maricle, piques my curiosity. I took a attending into the money bed-making mechanisms acclimated to acquit bribes in that abhorrent Luzerne Canton Pennsylvania adjudicator bribery case, breadth they were sentencing kids to alcove for bribes. One of the bribery or kickback attack in that case is, as I bethink it, Maricle Construction. Not a absolute accepted name, and Eastern Kentucky is not all that far from Western Pennsylvania. Admiration if they’re related?

Also, there is an allegation in Monroe Canton Pennsylvania now alleging analytical with machines to add or change votes on the Danaher/Shoup 1242 DREs.

Brad, I so acknowledge your advantage of this story, and the ambience you accommodate — cabal artifice is real. We are absolutely breaking through the abundant anathema — it acclimated to be advised abrupt and “inappropriate” for us to alike beforehand that an elections official could be corrupt.

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]… Mitch Trachtenberg said on 3/19/2009 @ 9:51 pm PT…

The added abomination actuality is that a certified voting arrangement had, according to the allegation you adduce in the article, a button labeled “vote” that didn’t casting a voter’s vote.

Somehow, at e-commerce sites, sellers accept managed to amount out how to let you apperceive aback you’ve completed your transaction. But not voting accoutrement vendors.

COMMENT #11 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 3/19/2009 @ 9:51 pm PT…

Greg D @ 4 asked:

Brad – any abstraction how abounding votes were absolutely altered? Did they about-face the acclamation through this scheme?

The allegation doesn’t say, and none of the belief that awning it acknowledgment that either. So no, don’t accept any of that advice yet. But if they did it in so abounding alternating elections, as the allegation states, one would anticipate it would accept altered/turned the acclamation results.

Either that, or they were aloof in it for the money, but it seems a appealing chancy arrangement to run for not abundant money.

John Washburn said @ 7:

In accession to the abetment alone iVotronics, the defendants additionally actualize artificial letters application the “features” of the UNITY suite.

I anticipation what you thought, but I’m not abiding from the indictment. Accepting apprehend it all the way through, my faculty is that the counterfeit address was the one submitted at the end of the night to officials, which were advisedly incorrect (since they had afflicted votes themselves, and had destroyed the “assistance reports”).

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That’s my faculty for the moment, anyway. Happy to apprentice otherwise, of course. If you’re able to acquisition any added advice there, amuse let me know!

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]… Bev Harris said on 3/19/2009 @ 9:54 pm PT…

Well correction. The Pennsylvania case involves Mericle Construction Inc., Robert K. Mericle; this is Russell Cletus Maricle, adapted spelling. Bold these guys can spell their own names, that is.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]… John Dowd said on 3/20/2009 @ 6:44 am PT…

Mericle, Maricle, Goldberg, Iceberg, what’s the difference.

Seriously, both Brad and Bev should get badge of Abandon awards for your assignment on this affair for abounding years now.

Meanwhile a acquaintance who I beatific this adventure to wrote aback to ask, “Wow, has this account fabricated it out of KY bounded account and the blogs”?

Maybe we could get “The Daily Show” interested?

John

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]… aficionado said on 3/20/2009 @ 6:59 am PT…

People in Kentucky are accustomed to vote?!?!!

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]… Adam said on 3/20/2009 @ 7:19 am PT…

I’ve been account your blog for a while now, and I charge say that you’re accomplishing a abundant job both generally, and on this amount in particular.

Thank you absolute abundant for educating me and so abounding others on this affair so thoroughly. Amuse accumulate up the acceptable work!

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]… Michelle Gabriel said on 3/20/2009 @ 7:30 am PT…

I admiration how the lath begin out what was activity on. Did somebody “squeal”?And why did the abyss abduct the acclamation this way rather than aloof alteration the after-effects central the machine?It would be absorbing to see if the voting accoutrement analysis logs appearance how abounding times the vote was afflicted from the aboriginal vote to the blockage of the final ballot.

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]… Matthew said on 3/20/2009 @ 7:45 am PT…

Who benefited from the chic elections? Which sitting admiral were alleged by artifice and a gang, not by the people? Was it “nonpartisan”, breadth either affair would accouterment whoever was accepting installed by this fraud? Democrats or Republicans?

I’m afraid the accessories and questions haven’t answered or asked that best basal catechism yet.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]… Steve B said on 3/20/2009 @ 7:47 am PT…

Looking advanced to award out what happened in the 2008 elections in Kentucky.

In 2006,where best of the adopted Kentucky admiral were Democrats,there was one notable exception. The Secretary of Accompaniment adopted was a Republican. As we know,the SoS is amenable for the candor of elections in best states of which one,I assume, is Kentucky. So it will be absorbing to see if,for instance, the acclamation achievement of Mitch McConnell was absolutely on the up and up. Possibly the aisle will be or already has been in the action of actuality obliterated.

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]… TJ said on 3/20/2009 @ 8:23 am PT…

Hmmm… I begin the occupations of three of the arrestees:a ambit cloister judge, a academy superintendent, and a government agent — I admiration which affair they belonged to….Gee, that’s a boxy one.

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]… David Rogers said on 3/20/2009 @ 8:44 am PT…

Since none of the account media articular the affair amalgamation of any of the adopted officials, but the Democratic Affair Canton Chairman was one of those arrested, I anticipate the affair amalgamation of the butt should be appealing clear.

Am I right, Brad? All (D), all the time?

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]… J. Stewart Schneider said on 3/20/2009 @ 8:44 am PT…

I absent my acclamation in Boyd Canton in 2006 by beneath than 300 votes. The absorbing affair was that by accretion the able Republican absolute for Canton Adjudicator with the able Democratic absolute one got a greater cardinal of votes casting than voters. We were told it was a “computer error” which was afresh “corrected” so that the numbers matched. My, my.

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]… brityank said on 3/20/2009 @ 8:54 am PT…

Many thanks; got alone in actuality through a articulation from Orly Taitz’s armpit DefendOurFreedoms.us. And no I am not surprised.

There is alone One Party, the Power Party. Its architecture is agnate to the back-to-back Male/Female restrooms in best office/mall/store buildings. They arise absolute on the alfresco – but the achievement is accumulated and beforehand over all of us!

It’s continued able time to go aback to Paper Ballots that acquiesce authentic verification, and authorization that all voters charge vote at their Precincts, with absolute limited, Medically-necessary and/or Notarized acquiescence of Absentee Ballots, and “Motor-Voter” absolutely repealed!

If you can’t be agitated to chase the basal requirements to casting your vote, you don’t deserve to.

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 3/20/2009 @ 10:30 am PT…

David @ 20 asked:

Am I right, Brad? All (D), all the time?

Nope. Not as far as I can acquaint so far. There were both Republican and Democratic acclamation lath circuitous here. It could be that they were artlessly in it for the money for electing the “slate” of candidates (who had paid them allurement money) of any party. It could be that they were accusation on account of one of those two parties, but had infiltrated the other. It could be that these “Democrats” were absolutely old time “Dixiecrats” who vote Republican instead, or DINOs in that they capital to affect primary elections by electing the weakest Democrat to go up adjoin the Republican.

So, barring added advice as I’m able to acquisition it, I don’t apperceive which of the two aloft parties benefited best actuality and, ultimately, I absolutely don’t absolutely care.

UPDATE: I forgot to add, that Clay Canton is a badly Republican county. So if these association were Democrats, gaming acclamation afterwards election, year afterwards year, it doesn’t accept as admitting they were decidedly acknowledged at it. Yet, they kept accomplishing it anyway, suggesting that this was acceptable about money added than politics. But that too is speculation.

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]… Styve said on 3/20/2009 @ 10:34 am PT…

Hey Brad…great reporting!

Is there a adventitious that these KY crooks will discharge on the RNC schemes, or name names?

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]… the zapkitty said on 3/20/2009 @ 10:40 am PT…

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 3/20/2009 @ 10:53 am PT…

J. Stewart Schneider @ 21 said:

I absent my acclamation in Boyd Canton in 2006 by beneath than 300 votes.

Boyd uses a aggregate of Hart-Intercivic’s eSlate (a DRE machine) and Hart’s eScan (a precinct-based paper-ballot scanner).

Presuming your description of what happened is accurate, I’d beforehand that both you — and added importantly, the voters — got screwed.

If you can’t see it, and add it up for yourself, there is no acumen to assurance it. If it doesn’t add up, it’s allegedly because it doesn’t add up.

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]… William Teach said on 3/20/2009 @ 12:15 pm PT…

Looks like a agglomeration of these association were Democrats. How about that? Strange, huh?

According to the indictment, Democratic acclamation abettor Charles Wayne Jones and acclamation administrator William E. Stivers helped blackmail money from candidates. In some cases, candidates were allegedly asked to basin money so votes could be bought.

Correct me if I am wrong, Brad, but abiding seems as if you are aggravating to accusation Republicans, aback it appears as if anybody circuitous is a Democrat.

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 3/20/2009 @ 12:59 pm PT…

Correct me if I am wrong, Brad, but abiding seems as if you are aggravating to accusation Republicans, aback it appears as if anybody circuitous is a Democrat.

I don’t see that, are you aloof bold that?

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 3/20/2009 @ 1:05 pm PT…

Hey Brad….

Have you apparent this yet?A Nebraska-based voting accoutrement maker has agreed to pay California $3.25 actor to achieve 2007 allegations that it awash crooked voting systems to the state’s counties, the secretary of accompaniment said Thursday.

http://www.sacbee.com/ca…ornia/story/1715255.html

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]… Bluebear2 said on 3/20/2009 @ 1:09 pm PT…

I charge accord acclaim to Bev and Brad for animated a alarm on this affair for the aftermost bristles years and hopefully these indictments will accessible the aperture alike added to allay the angle that acclamation admiral and the machines they use are aloft reproach!

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]… lmallia said on 3/20/2009 @ 2:20 pm PT…

This is treason, we are a country at war. Execute them for treason. Firing squad, although garroting with piano wire would accomplish added of a statement.

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]… Brad Friedman said on 3/20/2009 @ 2:27 pm PT…

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WIlliam Teach @ 27 said:

Correct me if I am wrong, Brad, but abiding seems as if you are aggravating to accusation Republicans, aback it appears as if anybody circuitous is a Democrat.

Okay, afresh I’m acclimation you. You’re wrong. Amid those circuitous was the REPUBLICAN acclamation judge. But added importantly, as I acclaimed in animadversion #23 above, I can’t amount out who these guys were absolutely supporting, and who — if anyone, added than themselves — they were apery in this scam.

So, as I couldn’t address that, I didn’t. So, yeah, you’re wrong. If you accept affirmation to abutment your amiss theory, amuse feel chargeless to allotment it with us.

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]… Eric said on 3/20/2009 @ 3:06 pm PT…

The arrangement had to aftereffect the aftereffect of elections, contrarily there would be no point. Furthermore, the conspirators had to be able to prove to the beneficiaries that they were account the money. Whether that affirmation still exists is an accessible question, but there had to accept been affirmation at some point of what the conspirators had accomplished. One artlessly does not allurement acclamation admiral to bandy elections one is activity to win anyway.

The commodity letters that the money circuitous is small. There should be little surprise. In my bound acquaintance in accompaniment and borough government, the amount of “favors” is generally shockingly baby – a few hundred to a few thousand dollars for a borough official, low bristles amount numbers for accompaniment officials. The aphorism of deride acclimated to be no added than 10% of the allowances would be breach amid all the conspirators.

Identifying who got the account of this arrangement should be easy, but convicting them will be hard. Bribery is an according befalling abomination abnormally accustomed breadth a distinct affair is in ascendancy for a continued period. Who controls the County? There is no charge to call why there will be no smoker gun.

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]… BH said on 3/20/2009 @ 3:40 pm PT…

Hmmm… I begin the occupations of three of the arrestees:a ambit cloister judge, a academy superintendent, and a government agent — I admiration which affair they belonged to….Gee, that’s a boxy one.

I anticipate academy admiral are adopted in that allotment of the country.

Also, the administrator would ascendancy absolutely a few jobs in the academy district. Therefore, it’s a lot added able position than you would suspect. Aforementioned would go for lath and sheriffs in that area.

Looks like a alteration from authentic votebuying to vote abetment is occurring there. Which is a accident to the bodies who fabricated money by affairs their vote to the able bidder.

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]… mark said on 3/20/2009 @ 5:27 pm PT…

A little accomplishments from addition who grew up in that allotment of the country:

The affair is irrelevant. Many, if not best rural Kentucky counties are registered 95% one affair or the other. It’s a cocky assiduity system, if you grew up there, you annals the majority affair because all the elections are absitively in the primary elections. Abounding counties do in actuality accept aggressive elections, the “reform” factions and “status quo” factions accomplish beneath the aforementioned affair registration. At the bounded level, there’s absolute little (if any) brainy aberration in the Republican and Democratic counties, it’s absolutely aloof a name. Frequently, the cardinal band has ascendancy over the affair accoutrement of the added party, which makes it easier to ascendancy an acclamation because you can acreage both acclamation lath in a accustomed precinct.

School admiral are acutely able in rural Kentucky. In the added base counties, it’s a able position of political patronage, frequently the better employer in a poor, baby county. I don’t anticipate it’s an adopted position, but appointed by the academy board. That’s why some of the best awful contested elections are for academy board.

I anticipate Clay is a Republican County. I’ve apparent this arrangement afresh abounding times in rural Kentucky, and as i’ve said before, affair amalgamation is absolutely irrelevant.

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]… CCKY said on 3/20/2009 @ 6:35 pm PT…

I am from Clay County, Kentucky and apperceive anniversary of the bodies arrested. I additionally knew the admiral ahead bedevilled who are in bastille now (former ambassador Daugh White, aloft canton Agent Jennings White, aloft Asst. Arch of Police Todd Roberts, aloft 911 Administrator Vernon Hacker, aloft Manchester Fire Dept. Arch Charles “Dobber” Weaver, and aloft burghal administrator Darnell Hipshire). There will acceptable be added to chase the accepted accumulation arrested. Clay Canton is about 90 percent Republican, including ALL of the eight arrested this week. They registered as Democrat and took administering roles in the bounded affair to ascendancy belt administrator seats, ensuring all admiral at the belt were duke picked. Notice that all of the elections in catechism are PRIMARY elections. It’s accepted ability that if you win the Republican primary in Clay Canton you will win the accepted election. If you appetite aloof analysis the political allotment of the canton and the affair amalgamation of accepted and aloft adopted officials. I can’t adjure to the answerability or chastity of any of those best afresh arrested but I apperceive for a actuality that Clay Canton is absolute abundant a Republican county. By the way, Jennings White’s advocate above-mentioned to his accusable appeal was David Williams, the Republican President of the Kentucky Senate. Attending it up. It’s all accessible record.

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]… eatmyass said on 3/20/2009 @ 6:49 pm PT…

these bodies should be approved for abomination and hopefully executed

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]… Shannon Williford said on 3/21/2009 @ 4:17 am PT…

Were these association not acute abundant to appoint a computer able to casting the elections the accessible way, with a virus or a worm?Unfortunately, we are still cat-and-mouse for affirmation of that…

shw

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]… Ancient said on 3/21/2009 @ 6:59 am PT…

I still say we should be putting abandoned veterans in these positions; they accept already absolutely put their lives on the band for absolute democracy. Aloof let the abyss try to base that authentic account and see how abounding added belief like this appearance up!

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]… Bill said on 3/21/2009 @ 8:45 am PT…

I would like to apperceive in which states were voters artifice proven? If there were aborigine artifice was parties or aloof one party? What about ACORN were they circuitous in aborigine fraud? If there were aborigine artifice how abounding states, what affair and who benefited (President, Congress Senators) Is there an advancing analysis into aborigine fraud

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]… the zapkitty said on 3/21/2009 @ 9:46 am PT…

… Bill said…

“I would like to apperceive in which states were voters artifice proven?”

Actual aborigine fraud? Acceptable luck with that as it’s absolute rare.

I know… that’s not what Republicans etc say but it happens to be the truth.

Despite Brad’s attempts at disinterestedness the abstract bogeyman of “Rampant Aborigine Fraud!” is a Republican concoction… so abundant so that it has become a de facto axle of the Republican party.

Unfortunately for the Republicans there has been adored little affirmation of absolute aborigine fraud, abreast from Ann Coulter and “Joe the Plumber” that is

And best of what little is left, besides Rethug hypocrites, has affronted out to be adverse immigrants and felons who had fabricated honest mistakes… and who were afresh crucified for “voter fraud” alike in the cases breadth bureaucrats accepted that they had accustomed incorrect (wrong) voting accommodation advice to the defendants.

Guilt chastity or absorbed did not amount in these political prosecutions… alone that there was commodity that the Rethugs could point to and scream “VOTER FRAUD!!!”

And in the end alike instances of this casting of abortion of amends was so few and far amid that it doesn’t alike annals statistically in the absolute electorate.

And in the alike beneath cases breadth non-Rethug celebrity, non-honest-mistake aborigine artifice is found… it’s so deficient as to be nigh-nonexistent.

There isn’t a aborigine artifice botheration in absolute life… but the Republicans abiding lie a lot about it to themselves and everybody abroad they anticipate will listen. So abundant so they anticipate it’s the truth.

And ACORN? Added abstract BS by the Republicans.

ACORN was defrauded by some workers who affronted in lists of abstract voters. But ACORN was appropriate by law to about-face in ALL lists collected… alike those they knew were fraudulent.

So ACORN affronted in the lists, as appropriate by law, forth with alerts to the government as to which account were accepted to be problems. And Rethugs actuality Rethugs and the U.S. Department of Amends actuality beat by political hacks… the bazaar started.

A media bazaar that it turns out had been planned continued in beforehand by the Rethugs and the DOJ. They knew, you see, they already knew that ACORN would be appropriate to about-face the bad lists over forth with the acceptable lists… and they screamed and they leaped. And in so accomplishing the DOJ, at the bidding of and on the account of the Rethugs, defrauded the American taxpayers of about abundant the ACORN investigations cost.

Because they knew, you see, they knew all forth that ACORN was innocent and that ACORN had in actuality obeyed the law at anniversary step.

ACORN was defrauded by a few bodies added their lists with abstract aborigine signups.

The American accessible was defrauded by a politicized Department of Amends that knew in beforehand that ACORN was innocent.

And there was never a adventitious that those few lists of abstract voters would accept absolutely apparent up at the polls… so “voter fraud” never came into the blueprint at all.

There are absolute problems to breach with America’s voting process… and “voter fraud” doesn’t rank aerial on the account of absolute problems. In actuality it doesn’t rank at all on any reasonable scale.

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]… Floridiot said on 3/21/2009 @ 3:20 pm PT…

I still appetite to apperceive what happened to Mike Gibbons of Kwaidan infamy…how did he croak?

COMMENT #43 [Permalink]… Larry Bergan said on 3/22/2009 @ 12:53 am PT…

Through all of these crazy years of aerial acclamation admiral and voting accoutrement vendors adage and accomplishing astonishing things that aloof couldn’t canyon the aroma test, I could never amount out why they would booty such huge risks with their integrity; not to acknowledgment their freedom.

I’ve consistently absurd that somebody told them that cipher has anytime been arrested or confined for acclamation fraud, so go for it!

I anticipate one of the affidavit Obama won this time is because of the little bodies who absolutely got sentences in Ohio. This is a abundant victory, because now, added afresh ever, it will be accessible that things accept changed.

It could not accept happened afterwards the voting candor movement started by Beverly Harris and agitated out by Brad and all the others.

Thank you, acknowledge you!

COMMENT #44 [Permalink]… Jim March said on 3/22/2009 @ 1:01 am PT…

The aboriginal affair that strikes me is how acutely archaic this drudge is – in added words, added or beneath aught abstruse ability bare and alone a basal compassionate of the voting machines.

The akin of “insider tech knowledge” is about what you’d get artlessly accomplishing a accustomed analysis election…zero coding or alike operating arrangement ability is required.

I doubtable we can bisect cyberbanking vote analytical (including optical browse systems in places breadth no duke calculation is accustomed or at atomic common) into three ample categories:

* Absolutely simple “hacks” that any idiot could cull off. This qualifies in spades.

* Added circuitous “local hacks” performed by moderately adeptness bounded elections officials/staffers or their bounded consultants. I acerb doubtable the Pima Canton RTA chase of 2006 would abatement into this category, as would commodity done by a bounded outsourcing bureau such as LHS Associates confined New Hampshire and the surrounding New England area. The well-documented Volusia Canton 2000 drudge (14,022 I anticipate it was “negative votes” in one precinct) is so far the best accurate example. In these attacks, somebody has advised the voting arrangement but doesn’t accept full-on “manufacturer akin knowledge” of how they work.

* “Manufacturer-level hacks” are so far abstract and the best alarming of all.

COMMENT #45 [Permalink]… Lynn said on 3/22/2009 @ 4:38 am PT…

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I am from Clay County,Ky. Aboriginal of all,for the bodies who awash their vote,you are to me as accusable as these declared schemers. For those of us who can apprehend and address and for the bodies who can’t apprehend or write, who didn’t advertise their vote, we are the authentic victims in all of this. We didn’t apperceive how these new machines formed and we entrusted these officals to advice us and attending at what happened. My affection absolutely goes out to those honest bodies who can’t apprehend or address like my dad. My mother goes in with him to advice him casting his vote. Whose to say admitting afterwards she advice him that this vote was altered.I achievement a absolute analysis is done on who awash their vote and didn’t. For those who went to the acclamation candidly and whose vote was changed, I anticipate the citizens of Clay Canton should get calm and book a claimed law accouterment adjoin those who allegedly afflicted votes. Whether we get a $1.00 or nothing, maybe this will be an archetype to these adopted admiral affidavit to do their job responsibly-maybe the abutting appointed acclamation admiral will stop and anticipate about what they’re doing. This bribery bare to be apparent alike admitting it’s awkward for our county.

COMMENT #46 [Permalink]… Madeline Rawley said on 3/22/2009 @ 9:27 am PT…

I would like added advice about the allegation of addition in Monroe County, Pennsylvania for acclimation the Danaher 1242 cyberbanking machines as I like in Bucks Canton PA breadth the aforementioned accoutrement is used. It is additionally acclimated in Philadelphia, Delaware, Berks, and Dauphin counties.

COMMENT #47 [Permalink]… Ancient said on 3/22/2009 @ 3:00 pm PT…

Maybe they could associate up with an EI activist and a Winter Soldier.

COMMENT #48 [Permalink]… Shannon Williford said on 3/23/2009 @ 7:23 am PT…

Floridiot, #42,

Mike Gibbons is dead? Aback did that happen?

hmmmm….

shw

COMMENT #49 [Permalink]… Kort Guernsey said on 3/23/2009 @ 12:08 pm PT…

Reply from my uncle in Lexington,KY. to this article….

The commodity didn’t acknowledgment the best common vote affairs address acclimated in Eastern Kentucky. They accept bodies get absentee ballots and the vote client either fills out the ballots or helps the voters ample them out afore sending them in. Afresh the voters get paid

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COMMENT #51 [Permalink]… Plaid Sportcoat said on 3/25/2009 @ 12:17 pm PT…

“….with the aid of one of the defendants who served as a poll artisan during the Aboriginal Voting period”They get added blast for the blade aback they use a guy who works through the absolute aboriginal voting period, rather than aloof one day at the polls. Because he ability be alteration baby amounts of votes EACH DAY, it makes it harder to atom a statistical trend than if it’s all done on one day. This will accept to be looked into now that aboriginal voting is the beachcomber of the future. Many, abounding added opportunities for VOTE FRAUD by the slicksters.

COMMENT #52 [Permalink]… Plaid Sportcoat said on 3/25/2009 @ 12:24 pm PT…

“Brad, I so acknowledge your advantage of this story, and the ambience you accommodate — cabal artifice is real. We are absolutely breaking through the abundant anathema — it acclimated to be advised abrupt and “inappropriate” for us to alike beforehand that an elections official could be corrupt. “

Also, we charge to accumulate on the Obamacrats to ensure they abide to accompany evoteing. I mean, not booty it for granted. We should all burden the hell out of Al Franken to booty it up as a cause. It looks like Amends Dept may be starting to ambition biased acts, hopefully.

COMMENT #53 [Permalink]… Carol said on 3/25/2009 @ 4:09 pm PT…

OMG,this is huge news! What account outlets accept you approached to address on this? Accept you talked to Olbermann? Has Hartmann arise it?

Let’s go and beforehand this! This is the affidavit we accept been cat-and-mouse for!

COMMENT #54 [Permalink]… Adele Eisner said on 3/26/2009 @ 11:36 pm PT…

Larry Bergan said on 3/22/2009 @ 12:53 am PT…

I anticipate one of the affidavit Obama won this time is because of the little bodies whofinally got sentences in Ohio. This is a greatvictory, because now, added afresh ever, it will be accessible that things accept changed.

Hate to breach it to you, but afterwards abundant acutely awful “connected” acknowledged machinations, for which taxpayers were still advantageous – aloof like for the acclamation and for the 2004 “recount-show from beginning the aesthetics emanated,” the two women begin accusable of a abomination and abomination were put on 6 months of a appropriate acquittal in Cuyahoga Canton declared “diversion”for first-time offenders, no bastille time needed. “Their sentences” were appropriately dealt away, their annal were expunged, and all balloon affirmation was eventually closed aftermost September. Everyone, including the mid-level managers’ bosses, Vu and Bennett, aloof absolved away. And their “defense” advocate now alike characterizes them as “innocent”! He in abounding means seems to appetite to pretend the accomplished affair never happened – except aback it comes to accepting his “defense” fees…from Cuyahoga taxpayers!Further, in May-June, ’08, aback I declared about to acquisition out when/if the women’s ahead scheduled, “end-of-diversion” acquittal audition was to be, all with not abundant balmy reception, I begin out finally, from a woman who articular herself as the arch of the aberration acquittal program, that she had never alike apparent the two women…. once…A-hem…..Seems like no peeing in a cup was alike all-important either…..

Then appropriate afore aftermost Christmas, on 12/22/08, their “defense” attorney, Synenberg, alike had the airs to appearance up at the CCBOE, apery one of the two woman, Kathy Dreamer, to 1) ask the lath to acclaim to Commissioners (the canton funds controllers) that the taxpayers/voters/victims(!) pay his acknowledged “defense” fees for her ($140K); and 2) that the Dreamer get her job aback at the CCBOE….in the acclamation department!See blur of that unabashed, amoral airs – in 4 genitalia here:http://video.google.com/…cid=-3503167382440228330http://video.google.com/…cid=-8148412972493754624http://video.google.com/…cid=-6440397286403782265http://video.google.com/…cid=-4485730550281465445

The whole, ambagious adventure is absolute long, and to me thoroughly animal – added abominable than we appetite to apperceive about.Bottom line, the CCBOE about beneath to accomplish the advocacy to accept the Canton Commissioners pay the “defense” fees from aborigine coffers (though as you can apprehend on the video Synenberg was awkward to sue the Canton if they didn’t angle over calmly (- alike added usurption of aborigine dollars!)(Synenberg – the “defense”lawyer, who seemed to accomplish abiding that the “defense” did not accommodate allurement or bold who ordered these 2 mid-level managers to unseal, pre-select, and precount the 3% sample blab ballots to accomplish abiding aggregate akin up neatly with what blab assemblage were shown, so not accession acclamation had to be apparent – is additionally a aloft CCBOE “R” lath member. Synenberg, in actuality sat for a while alongside Bob Bennett,on the board, the closing actuality the R Chair of the CCBOE lath aback the beating 2004 acclamation and big recount-show occurred.)

If Synenberg will be able to cut a accord with the Commissioners, or if he’ll end up suing for us to pay Dreamer’s aegis fees is yet to be seen…. (yes… from 2004, “yet to be seen” in 2009.)

On the amount of giving the jury-convicted Dreamer aback a job at the CCBOE(!!), fabricated worse in this time of absolute few jobs to be had anywhere…and fabricated alike bizarrely worse because aback she voted in aftermost March’s primary she “crossed-over” to vote as a D (though I don’t apperceive her motivation, it’s like what was appropriate by Limbaugh-types for that election.) Besides the assurance and “confidence” blast of such an application return, if she were to appear back, she by OH law would charge to be a “D” bringing the connected catechism aback confined to accommodate 2 affair antithesis in lath duties – is she absolutely an “an R in D clothing.” (Sounds like the name of a soap opera, and about looks like one too.)

On this “re-employment” question, the lath vote bankrupt forth affair curve – the two R’s for, the 2 D’s against. Per OH law that Feb.2,’09 lath tie went to the SoS for the chief vote.According to what I’ve been told, as of today, 3/26/09, SoS Brunner (who is now additionally active for OH Senate) has not burst that tie yet. Hmmmm…

From my angle on the world,from Cuyahoga County, afore we alpha accepting too adequate cerebration abundant acceptable change has happened, I anticipate that may aloof arresting the time to dig bottomward into facts alike further, breadth things get slimier, uglier and a bit added afflictive than what we anytime capital to accept about “reality.”I anticipate there is still much, and the best capital assignment to be done in this acclamation arena.

COMMENT #55 [Permalink]… Larry Bergan said on 3/27/2009 @ 2:40 am PT…

Adele Eisner:

Thanks for the information. That is absolutely disturbing. I’m activity to accept to administering in my optimism, again!

How could they be so audacious as to try and accord this woman her job back. Like I said though, she is one of the little people. I’m added affronted that Michael VU got to move on to California as if annihilation happened. He acclimated to assignment actuality in Utah afore messing things up in Ohio.

What a baby apple it is. We accept a agent alleged Bob Bennett who happens to be alive on authoritative “voter fraud” an issue. They aloof don’t stop, do they? Actuality is a asinine animadversion he fabricated that I had to address on, aback the newspapers won’t.

COMMENT #56 [Permalink]… Adele Eisner said on 3/27/2009 @ 1:27 pm PT…

Yes what a baby world! Could it be that bulging their “problems” (and breach the public’s absorption and disdain) assimilate voters comes forth with the DNA of those alleged Bob Bennett?

I actuality accredit you to a articulation to yet accession blur demonstrating one anatomy of the oft fabricated aforementioned “Bob Bennett” “projection” actuality – that all the voters are the liars (…while to be assumed,of course, that all acclamation admiral are absolute and accurate and to be(greatly) accustomed and believed….)”Our” Bob Bennett, the arch of OH R party, aloft Chair of the CCBOE board, declared and anon accepted that aforementioned affect absolute generally (he too generally referred to the affair of “voter fraud”) – in actuality he absent to that acumen about every time addition approved to point out accession systemic array f___ or political “problem” at the CCBOE.This blur – admitting it’s about 30 minutes, represents alone a baby allotment of of the 6 hour affair the CCBOE lath captivated that acclamation day, 11/7/06; the aforementioned affectionate of meeting/use of lath agents time they did every acclamation day, mainly it seems, for the betterment of the press, as Vu and Bennett and all their binding troops, accurately arise how absolute the acclamation was going, how any problems were actuality acquired by voters and activists,or alike such things as groups accepting a acclamation affair on the acclamation – authoritative the acclamation “too long”, appropriately causing the “too long” curve (as Diebold machines were still abolition ad jamming all round) & putting a bend in their bland acclamation show….)

The blur is account a watch. It depicts one baby allotment of the absolute 11/06 “smooth election” affair show, which was acutely important to Vu’s image/job, aback the antecedent May,’06 primary in Cuyahoga with the then-brand new whiz-bang Diebold DRE’s and scanners was such a debacle….a assemblage of Vu’s huge incompetence, the board’s connected accoutrement up of all problems instead of analytic them, and of course, Diebold, their crashing,vote hopping,printer jamming, @!%^#^ DRE’s and scanners break progammed and not tested, so they could not calculation the tens of bags of absentee ballots. (That too is a too continued a adventure for here.)So at this November ’06 meeting, it began with (false) letters of how few acclamation opened late, how the ballots was “too long”causing the lines, etc.Then bodies started bold up advertisement huge problems at the acclamation (again!) at which, anniversary time, Bennett approved to accomplish it complete as if it were aloof accession abandoned “accident” to their “pretty acceptable election” – admitting accession “cluster f___” was acutely axiomatic to anybody watching.Here, you’ll see “our” Bob Bennett (white beard up at the lath table, arch the discussion;)the backward Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones, afraid at what she was witnessing again, not absolution them get abroad with it; and of course, Larry, you can revisit seeing Michael Vu again, afore he “resigned” the afterward Feb. to get to his Utah/San Diego “mentor” for his $130k/year there. Poor San Diego….I blue-blooded the blur from a adduce from the film, “Now Mr. Bennett Are You Ready to Eat Your Words?” fabricated in absolute acknowledgment to Bennett’s affirmation that the botheration set afore him afresh was not absolutely a problem, answer it was aloof accession aborigine lie and/or possibly one abandoned “accident.” Aback accepted wrong, and as alike in the “proving” the lath appear far bigger, aloft systemic problems activity on, (if it weren’t so sad, it would be funny) which Bennett about would not admit, that’s what the acclamation aegis advocate said in return.Could it be in the Bob Bennett DNA ? Alike bottomward to the time-consuming story-telling about one little adventure that he would use to try to infer that all voters are bad, and charge be suffered through and brought to task, as begin on your blog, Larry, from “your” Utah Bob Bennett.

Here is the articulation to the blur from 11/7/06 CCBOE 6 hour, acclamation day meeting, slated to be about the CCBOE’s, (according them) “pretty acceptable elections,” featuring our Bob Bennett.

http://video.google.com/…ocid=-198605289138511060

COMMENT #57 [Permalink]… Larry Bergan said on 3/29/2009 @ 1:42 pm PT…

Adele Eisner:

Sorry, but I absent a brace of canicule on the internet because I acquainted my mp3 amateur in at the amiss time and did commodity to my operating system.

Are those your videos?

I fabricated a few videos myself and admitting the bodies actuality videoed don’t accept too concerned, you aloof apperceive they’d like to annihilate you, but I anticipate it’s important to accomplish them feel as afflictive as accessible while talking complete nonsense.

I already heard Michael Moore say that he hates his job and I can absolutely analyze with that. It makes me badly afflictive to point any camera at somebody, but what abroad can we do?

If they’re your videos, acceptable for you!

COMMENT #58 [Permalink]… Adele Eisner said on 3/30/2009 @ 2:58 pm PT…

Yes, they are my videos. I accept 4 years of them – abounding lath meetings, and through weeks of official counting of 3 primaries and 4 accepted elections, and added afresh of (what are called) “audits.”I accept mostly filmed accessible proceedings, and activities breadth an “Observer” is “allowed” “in” – and accept appropriately faced situations breadth I’ve been placed abaft poles or aerial endless of boxes acceptance no “seeing” of what I was accustomed to “watch”; attempts to accroach the camera; and alike threats to me, a grandmother, alone as in “I’m gonna get you” or “You’re gonna acquisition a ‘little surprise” if you accumulate it up (- the closing of which I got on film….) by a added acute “election official” who wants no one watching or documenting him as he does what he does…on his $100 K about paid bacon in accessible service….

I’ve acquaint many, but a alone baby allotment at http://citizensboe.blogspot.com/until I chock-full blogging mid aftermost year – mostly because rather than alarming others to additionally appear forward, my intent, it appeared that all my time, expense, activity and the acknowledgment I was demography by actuality there and announcement about it, was actuality acclimated to either advance me, or to appetite me to accommodate added (!) mostly by added activists, some of who accept to be continuing added for their own glory, funding, following, etc. than absolutely as interdependent, inter-supportive peers, to be able to accordingly account the abounding absolute changes bare get to fair elections that are absolutely adumbrative of the voters will.I will alpha blogging afresh soon, possibly with a adapted tact.The accepted administering of Cuyahoga BOE, however, is absolutely appealing advanced of the camera/understands these are accessible proceedings, and expects to see me with it. I accept been, however, additionally accurate not to point it in anyone’s face afterwards their permission; I’m accessible about aback I’m filming or not; and accept not taken it/pointed it breadth not accustomed (as in an accessible one, a aborigine voting)- which has been absolute few places.Many of the Cuyahoga alive agents has absolutely apparent acknowledgment that their badly long, backbreaking abundant assignment is actuality filmed so others can understand.To accomplishment this cannonball about videoing -1. I anticipate it’s acutely important – one never knows how important, sometimes until afterwards – as “institutional memory” in this elections amphitheatre seems about planned for quick of anamnesis loss, as alike activist absorption gets abject about in apparent circles, abroad from the capital problems/solutions.2. The Ohio assembly is afresh in the action of discussing quick access of an acclamation Observer law that prohibits videoing and audio recording.and3.It was Kathleen Wynne’s, (formerly of BBV,) video of the 2004 Cuyahoga recount, that absolutely got the ’04 CCBOE Blab amount to a trial/not aloof absolute off – alike if the “non-public admirable jury” did arraign “the little people” to be kept quiet, not the “big people” who were absolutely responsible. (I was “just a” attestant to that abominable acclamation and recount, at the alpha of my way to EI activism.)In affidavit of the above, (and how important it is to certificate the accessible processes that so few are able to see,) I abutting with yet accession video clip. This one is at the end of a (recount) balloon day in January ’07, afterwards “the aegis rested” – aback Michael Vu and the agent administrator (the alpine blond) showed up – as if they were activity to testify, but aback they never were declared to the stand, acutely there was absolutely no “defense” plan for them to affirm (under adjuration and cantankerous examination) about the bearings to save the women.This blow is about 11 account long. If you appetite to alpha at about minute 8:30 you’ll see what I mean. Statements from the aegis advocate like “Put abroad that camera…. That’s how we got into this trouble…”http://video.google.com/…cid=-6343336287936211023

COMMENT #59 [Permalink]… Larry Bergan said on 3/30/2009 @ 8:03 pm PT…

It’s accessible that there were added ample cameras there that I accept were deployed by the media. I accept that annihilation of accent was appear to the accessible at ample from their television records.

I am abashed to accept that I alive in Utah, and accept not done added to betrayal the accessible absurdity of our acclamation arrangement here. As somebody who could not accessible apperceive annihilation about you, added afresh what you accept told me here; I acclaim you acutely for your application and courage. It consistently seems to be women who go out on a limb to acquaint the pubic. Maybe it’s the affectionate instinct. I can at atomic affirmation that I, sometimes, accept that affectionate of intuition about what’s activity on about me!

You accept my absolute account for what can be declared an attack at giving the bodies of your accompaniment an UNPAID agnate to C-Span or what I achievement C-Span’s aboriginal absorbed was; to aloof put what is activity on in the people’s name in the record.

Thank you!

COMMENT #60 [Permalink]… barbie9 said on 4/5/2009 @ 7:36 am PT…

I anticipate the bodies in Putnam County,Ottawa ,Ohio accept accomplished courrption on their Lath of Elections aloof like Kentucky.What can we do to get this investagated?

COMMENT #61 [Permalink]… barbie9 said on 4/7/2009 @ 5:27 am PT…

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Our BOE,drag out their affairs to 3 hours.When the accessible appetite to talk,3 lath associates absolved out.With the affair actuality so continued several bodies left.What can the accessible do about this injustice?Also lath has been accepting abstruse meetings,leaving out one lath member.Our county,Putnam County,Ohiom is so courrpt.Please accord admonish what to do,where to start.Thank you

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